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Finally, I read your posting. Thanks for sharing those references. I'm completely with you in those three cases. I just don't get how you can state, with all those principles in place that you mentioned, that Hive is decentralized - just because there are +20 Nodes supporting its basic functions and jada jada... There's quite some indications that "Ninja stake" was involved while it has been created, just as "Ninja stake" has been given as a reason to fork Steem in the first place - and that's not the thing I want to criticize. But that decentralization can not exist in delegated systems. Although I wish that Hive is going to be a success to many! Chain on! Chains off!!

(This is on Steem, cross commenting on Hive.)

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As long as there are only 20 top witnesses then any DPOS system will not be fully decentralised, but it is at least better than having only one 'witness' controlling the top 20 servers and their operators as has happened on Steem. A distributed version of hive/steem would be optimal, where every user is their own 'witness', but we don't have the technology for that yet.
It's true that the ninja stake from steem has changed the landscape that led up to the creation of hive, but so has the warped economics that were created via the fiat system too and we can't do much about that at all at the moment. As I understand, the ninja mined tokens from steem were directly moved into the Hive Dao, which is the basis for hive's development fund (worker proposals), so it is being used fully for the intentions that were planned for it to be used in Steem, yet which justin sun has now prevented on steem.

Good. Thanks for making this clear. Now I read "less-centralized then
..", and that's truly a good thing. Chain on! Chains off!! !invest_vote

PS. Interesting that you answer to my comment only on Steem and not Hive yet. btw: I hope everyone will be looking for the Proposal on @GINAbot 2.0 (I have not seen one so far) or reads about it at BuildTeam CEO Update: STEEM/HIVE Services Roadmap

I actually didn't notice that you commented on both platforms and just replied to you on STEEM first ;)
I would vote for a Ginabot proposal if it made sense, yes.

Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

Ahoy! My purpose for using STEEM was always to communicate in an uncensored way with the world, plus to then also help decentralise things and since I can get 'paid' too I also use it to help me resource my communication too. Unfortunately, since I want to reach as many people as possible, I still also post on totally centralised networks like FB and twitter. Even in the face of the centralisation on STEEM, it doesn't make sense to me to stop posting here as long as there are any people here to communicate with (since fb and twitter are far more censored and I still use those). However, I will be posting content here that can help inspire awareness of the pros/cons of each system and currently I see there are more pros to HIVE. I have shut down my witness on STEEM as it is impossible to breakeven with it in the face of Justin Sun's hostile takeover (unless I buttkiss him enough, which is absolutely not what I am going to do and absolutely the opposite of decentralisation). I am currently running a witness on HIVE.

In short, I fully expect HIVE to replace STEEM in the coming months, but for now I will crosspost since it doesn't take me much time to do so. Does that help?

Big Thx for your reply. I think i will stick around on both chains for time being.

I also figured that you may find this post interesting and worth your time:
https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/project-hope-curation-trail-on-both-chains-steem-and-new-hive

It's post published by good friend of mine and I'm helping him to promote their curation trail.

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